Ooh, and what about the drunk couple making out at the bar? Like, tongue-down-the throat, throw-me-down-right-here making out? They were skeevy.

My worst drunk-girl pet peeve is the girls who come to the club in drunken packs, stand near the stage ... and talk through the entire show. I mean, you paid $18 to be here. You can stand around in the dark and yap with your buddies for free. Last winter's Josh Rouse shows come to mind as particularly flagrant examples.

The last Band of Horses show at the Exit/In was the worst show I saw last year. Their albums are absolutely terrific. But they didn't seem like they wanted to be there playing for a sold-out crowd. And they only had one album at the time.

So instead of going to this one, I drove to Atlanta to see Ween. Much more of a rock and roll show at a larger venue, so the drunk girls don't get in the way as much. They are a lot easier to ignore as the venue size grows.

You're always bitching about something. I swear. I can't wait to see what else you hate at shows. You know what I wish? I wish there was a category called "drunken Scene writers who snap at their boyfriends." (ahem Tracy Moore)

Or how about "Scene staff- who gives a fuck what you have to say?"

It's funny to me that you guys stroke your egos louder than the rockstars whom you write about.

Also, "lamecore" is lamecore. It's not a word...it's not even a two word hyphenate.

yeah, I heard that too; many of my clones were in attendance.

i thought "Things That Annoy Me" was already the focus of Nashville Cream. This is seriously going to be a NEW feature?

Things That Annoy Me (Week Two): Cream Commenters.

If you don't like it, don't read it.

The drunk girl (or, you know, drunk guy) is a major annoyance that you can count on. Spilling beer on people. Lighting the wrong end of cigarettes (although I find that funny, especially since I've openly declared war on smokers). Being louder than the band. I could go on, but I won't since apparently a regular Cream feature can now do it for me...

And the worst show I saw last year was the Black Angels at Exit-In. That's a band I like, mind, or at least I did before that utter abortion. The sound was an inexcusable mess, but the band seemed to fold under pressure and it seemed to get worse and worse the whole set. If I had paid to get in, I would've asked for my money back since I could not regain the time. And I've never asked for my money back for anything ever. It really was inarguably horrendous.

I think we can all agree that nothing is inarguable.

Stabert,

Come on! By now, it's easy to spot what all the writers like and don't like. You only really like shows if it's Glossary, Brooke Wagonner and Drive by Truckers. Otherwise, you might like the artists , but you ALWAYS bitch about something else that doesn't have anything to do with music. Yeah yeah, drunk people are stupid.

All this is stupid.

So my point : if you don't like cream bloggers, don't write blogs that people can comment on!

If you don't like it, don't read it???

Whatever happened to "love us or hate us, just keep the thread going?"

Anyone who talks during a show should be shown the door or shot - their choice.

@Matt S.

I beg to differ...

The small blonde in the Spin Doctors cap who walked back and forth from the front to the bar more times than songs played? The incredibly tall couple that stood front and center, making out before Tyler Ramsey and then during each set? The girl so deadpan drunk you couldn't tell if the "Wooo"s and "Yeeeah"s were serious or not?

Yeh - there were some foolishly drunken folks about, but the J.J.Cale and CCR covers made the night more than worth it.

Lee, i can't know if i hate it UNTIL i read it. Don't you at least find it encouraging that some of us give you, the writers, the benefit of the doubt and keep reading your posts? Is this blog just a pissing contest or is this blog a resource for the fairly interesting music scene in Nashville? Out with it already.

Is this blog just a pissing contest or is this blog a resource for the fairly interesting music scene in Nashville
This could be shortened to...Isn't this just a blog?
Drunk girls are funny. It's the clumbsy drunk girls I've got issues with. Like the ones that accidentally burn you with their cigarette. I don't think I've ever been plastered enough that I forgot how to keep fire off other peoples skin. seriously. just quit.

clumbsy? really? ahhhhhhh. dag blast it. spelling wrong make me angry.

Atleast none of you had to stand behind the middle aged guy who looked and smelled like he hadn't bathed in a week and insisted that he worked for a local music publication and was there to review the show. he was the only asshole in the place who was jumping and moshing by himself. dont get me wrong, i love boh. but you dont dance to them like you have lost your mind or transformed into a sugar-high seven year old. you also dont stomp on the feet of others around you and yell and convulse as if you have lost your mind.

needless to say, it was ridiculous. i would love to know who he really "worked" for and report him.

to "age" - you don't HAVE to stand behind anyone. if he bothered you that much, you could've moved.

first time i've read this and i think you should keep on bitching. if people don't like it they can kiss your ass, i guess.

Too much bass? The next time I experience that in this town will be the first.

Too much guitar - now there's a common offense.

Sounds like the drunk girls may be the only ones who have 100 percent fun at these shows. Not sure, but I think I kinda like drunk girls.

That's Bill Crapp. Frankly speaking.

"but you dont dance to them like you have lost your mind or transformed into a sugar-high seven year old. you also dont stomp on the feet of others around you and yell and convulse as if you have lost your mind."

ahem. excuse me, this wasnt a seated venue. if u cant "transform" and "dance like youve lost your mind" then..
what?

i do agree about drunk people who wont shut up.. but you can dance if you want to!

good golly , what a sour puss

Sounds like the majority of the scenester bloggers need to make the Bluebird their hangout.
Drunk girls are annoying. Drunk dudes are just as bad though.
If people don't get drunk, the venues don't pay their bills, and you have no show to complain about.

You can go round and round about this, but its entirely subjective. Bottom line is : your enjoyment of the music should not be directly affecting that of others. Obviously, Band of Horses is not a punk rock show, nor a viable opportunity to dance like...er, David, let's say. Something tells me if dude was "convulsing" or whatever and stomping his feet, he was probably on some crazy drugs or was just crazy. When somebody is "dancing" like that in the crowd and consistently jostling other people around them, that person is a nuisance and should be treated as such. If you're at Exit-In, it's kind of implicit that you' not mosh like it's New York circa 1979. It should be common sense. Dance if you wanna dance. Keep your body to your self, thanks.

you are not a f*@king autobot. dance if you want to but don't dance like there is no one around you. and just because you want to be pete daugherty doesnt mean you are not offending people with your bad smell. take a bath and stop doing coke!!!

I would like to see dancing banned from all the mid-small size clubs around here. Save it for City Hall or Bonnaroo. Dancing is not only annoying, it's dangerous. Combining drinking in the mix also could make it lethal, kind of like what happened at that show in Atlanta last year.

Keep your dancing to your self. Watch the band. Observe the music. That is what you paid for. Save the dancing for when your at your slumber parties you hipsters. Then maybe you'll understand the music on a deeper level.

Yeah, ban dancing!

My dancing is always lethal, even in small doses. But I do respect other people's personal space, if not their sense of aesthetics. Always.

I don't know about banning dancing completely. Maybe we could try to get it where you can only dance after a certain time, like after 11pm, or have it where dancing is only permitted in certain areas in the back of the club, Exit In for example.

Dancing is dumb. Foot tapping is acceptable.

next time, tap shoes!

No dancing? No expression? No getting out and enjoying yourself? Music is meant to be heard and felt, not merely observed.

How bout all you boring fucks congregate in the back of the club, Exit In for example. Then you can observe the music AND all of the people having more fun than you.

By the way, just because someone feels inclined to dance doesn't mean they're on coke.

It's a fucking ROCK SHOW, kids. If you want a cool fest, go back to high school.

THIS IS WHY THE SCENE IN M'BORO IS BETTER! THE JERKS THAT FOLD THEIR ARMS AND HAVE A STARING CONTEST WITH THE BAND DON'T EXIST LIKE NASHVILLE. NOW IF ONLY WE HAD A VENUE???

ok. lets make it clear. there is nothing wrong with dancing and having fun and getting drunk off you ass. there has to be something called responsibility for your actions. and when you infringe upon others with your di@kheadedness you have to pay for those actions. it seems some of us need to pay a little more attention to what we are doing and then everybody can enjoy the show.

Just to address jimmy's point:

Arm crossing at shows was actually invented in Murfreesboro dring the ancient '90s. That was how we showed the band love. It was also cold sometimes.

ALL CAPS! RULZ!

Wow, I've never heard this topic debated before.

I like people to be loud and crazy at shows. I know bars like people to be drunk. I also like girls. Girls that have been drinking are really a plus, but I don't like the exit/in. so I agree completely with everything and nothing said here. anyone know my ATM code?

I wouldn't single out females from the group of drunken, non-stop loud-talking idjits, 'cause I hate 'em all.

That said, as a hetero male, drunken females at a show ain't gotta be a bad thing.

Lee Stabert is female I assume? If the shoe compliment line & totally gay green cocktail photo weren't proof, the getting pissed at a drunk chick in a black lace shirt seems to confirm it. I find it incomprehensible that the crowd at a Band Of Horses show couldn't produce a memorable male retard. I mean, they paid money to get in, correct? I would think the douche factor had to be astronomical regardless of gender.

Lee said:
Things That Annoy Me (Week Two): Cream Commenters.
If you don't like it, don't read it.

Disdain for your readers is a tough sell, but I don't make my living as a writer. Maybe you don't, either.

Dancing at this sort of rock show is still dumb. Listening to good music should be primarily a cerebral endevour. Nuance is pretty hard to pick up on when your drunk as a skunk and throwing yourself around the room. If you want to dance, go to a dance club. Or at least dance in the back, so you don't bother those of us who are wanting to enjoy the show. Toe tapping & head bobbing are still ok.

Seated shows are the best. Nashville needs more.

i really hate the word douche bag. please everyone can we please, for the love of god, come up with a new insult to call everybody. ok. top five insults to call people. go. and be original.

no one pays attention after the first few posts. stabert's quite the bitch, for sure.

Fucktard. The only insult you'll ever need.

"Listening to good music should be primarily a cerebral endevour."

This is why Rock and Roll is dead.

If it's Mazzy Star, sit quietly. If it's Guided By Voices, get out of your seat and move your feet, or move to the back of the venue and let the drunk fist-pumpers and pogo dancers have their night. In any case there is always going to to be someone at a show who crosses some line and makes things a little less enjoyable for someone else. That's a fact. Simple. (and I know that both of these bands don't actually tour anymore, but you get the idea)

To me, what's worse than the drunk dancing fucktards (thanks Sean, for that gem) is this attitude that drunk girls are a very good thing--and it's clear where you people are going with that.
Comments like those make me sick. I'm a heterosexual male, also, but I'm not pervy and predatory. Deplorable. Syphilitic, even. Enjoy the sex you won't remember, as well as the resulting VDs, regrets, babies, and abortions. Good luck with it.

Think about it from the band's point of view. If you're having a staring contest with a crowd of stiff-legged hipsters when on stage, you're gonna a)think they aren't really enjoying the show and b)feel very awkward and not enjoy playing.
On the other hand if you're playing to a crowd of pogo-dancing hipsters yelling and cheering, you're gonna a) know that they actually like what you're doing and b) enjoy playing your show. That's a very good reason to at least bob your head and/or pump your fist, in my opinion. Unless the band actually does suck, in which case you should let them know by being the stiff-legged hipster, so they'll quit making shitty music and move on to better things.

I actually prefer it when people are being quiet and attentive. But then, I've never been in a band that you'd call "fun."

Bands feed off the energy in the room. Maybe that's why some people here claim that this show in questioned left something to be desired.

"Soul/Decency/Respect": are you a Southern Baptist minister?

Keep your luck, I married a drunk chick I met at a bar (Multi Bob!) 16 years ago & we are still married.

And while it's true that I don't remember ALL of the sex from my single days, I never once regretted it. Also, no VDs, babies or abortions. Praise the Lord & pass the condoms, you fucktard!

I suggest if you think standing there is fine, take the time to see a show in Nashville and then see the same band in Atlanta. A lot better atmosphere and energy in Atlanta. NASHVILLE CROWDS SUCK - UNLESS THE M'BORO CROWD SHOWS UP

Fuck Atlanta.

Yeah, fuck Atlanta and their multitude of far superior shows that pass our town by.

who's gonna help me off the floor at the basement, because i'm gonna be drunk and loud and pissing on people

Who's gonna drive you home?

We don't care if you're drunk or not. Try not to cause fights, unless it's to win my heart. Just please spend more time at our merch tables. We entertain you, we try to write good music, we provide a reason for pleasin'. So please, if you can spend money on booze, you can spend $5 on art. If you're not drinking, more of a reason. We love you - goodnight.

I agree with LocalVenue's comment. stay at the bluebird. You can enjoy the musical experience by not talking, smoking, dancing, laughing, or having any fun at all.
Dancing should be upfront. Music appreciators should be towards the back where you can hear a proper mix.

Wow

For what I gather is a bunch of young sprouts - who else would be reading this blog?, you all seem to be pretty passive.

Tobin wants you to stand still and stroke your beard whilst observing the "unit" on stage executing their motions and causing tones to be created.

Others want to impose a manner of prohibition on consumables, especially alcoholic liquids. Might take the edge off of your analytical skills.

We are discussing the cultural genre of music that falls under the umbrella of "POPular" music? No?

I suppose we could always install seating at the Exit/In. You could still fold your arms.

Oh, and only middle aged people smell? I cant WAIT till you kids grow old.

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